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Recommendation - Overclocking for the n00b featurette?
reb_dark 
29/6/08 5:31:03 PM
Disciple

Hi guys, im buying a brand new system in a couple weeks after having virtually no interest in systems/ overclocking for the last 6 or so years (current pc resembles the functionality of a rusty burnt out tank somewhere south of highway 1 southern Afghanistan). So, i was wondering if atomic could do a tech feature on everything to do with overclocking. Nor am I the only one, theres fragmented forums all over the www half answering everyones questions.

There could be sections on:

+ Overclocking terms (voltages, mulitpliers, ratios etc)
+ Tech - minimum cooling requirements, CMOS jumpers, switches etc
+ General guides for more popular chipsets (say P35,X38,X48,750i,790i)
+ GPU overclocking
+ RAM overclocking
+ CPU overclocking
+ Relevant software for testing and benchmarks (prime95,coretemp, memtest86, 3dmark06, vantage etc)

What does everyone think? i've been trawling through pages on the net working out how to overclock a q6600, trying to decipher all the terms, work out the required tech and all that. there are a few threads on the atomic forums, but i reckon it'd be great to have a "quintessential" feature answering all the basic questions ("How hot is too hot?", "Define a stable overclock?").

I havnt seen one in a pc mag...ever...not to say there hasnt been one, but surely with the new wave of GFX cards coming out, rising onset of vista popularity and overclocking becoming more and more accepted by the mainstream computing and enthusiast community, it's time for a good solid piece of literature pointing the n00bs in the right direction.

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smadge1 
29/6/08 6:54:13 PM
Immortal

well, overclocking really isn't for n00bs.

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but then:
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reb_dark 
29/6/08 7:14:55 PM
Disciple

and what if a n00b wants to learn to overclock and be un-n00bed? if you dont like the "n00b" just take it out, and have the overclocking feature for anyone interested. doesnt have to be for a n00b

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smadge1 
29/6/08 8:04:31 PM
Immortal

exactly.

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at first i was like:
{:|
but then:
}:D
I lol'd

[ .. The WHS Guy .. ]

http://geocline.net/
17938

jennyb 
30/6/08 7:54:11 AM
Banned
Reb there are good bits of info floating around, you have to look for it. You can however pick up lots in the forums. This system is my first overclock and I would appreciate an article on it, particularly after the gigabyte comp when everyones still excited about the whole idea, then I want to see a soft (but good) article on peripherals.

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superfireydave 
30/6/08 9:00:16 AM
Titan

Cyb3rglitch's guide is pretty easy to follow. I think it's at http://www.cyb3rglitch.com

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Mreow?
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=9&t=17306

.:Cyb3rGlitch:. 
30/6/08 8:27:06 PM
Titan

I wrote a new overclocking tutorial (which is more concise than the one linked above) for Atomic, and it's getting published soon.

Not sure what issue, thats up to David to announce.

That tutorial is CPU and RAM orientated, but if I get good feedback, I'll be happy to do a GPU version too.


Edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: 30/6/2008 8:29:41 PM

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Cyb3rGlitch Tutorials: http://www.cyb3rglitch.com/
Tutorials for the aspiring beginner.

jennyb 
30/6/08 10:42:29 PM
Banned
Whoooohooooooo!!! I'm already looking forward to it and hopefully it'll have some great tips and insights from the gigabyte competition.

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reb_dark 
30/6/08 11:44:06 PM
Disciple

excellent news, cheers cyb3rglitch :)

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David Hollingworth 
1/7/08 11:35:48 AM
God

It will likely be in issue 93 or 94 :)

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"No matter where you go, there you are."

moloko 
1/7/08 12:48:08 PM
Serf

God bless forward features =P

A bit of a retrospective look at the request...

It was and generally is something that is always on the cards. There are some issues with the concept of an all inclusive introduction to overclocking.

The first big issue being the fact that it is such a huge topic with so many finer points and even finer points within those - it ends up like a tree. You get the trunk which represents the core concepts and ideas. This then spreads into the branches that represent focused areas such as CPUs, GPUs, memory etc . From here it then keeps getting more granular with twigs, leaves etc. You could even keep going to a 'cell' type level with an understanding of low-level hardware volt mods etc.

Over the past 12 months there have been a lot of articles in Atomic on the ins and outs of overclocking. Some have been specific, i.e. sub-zero cooling methods, while others have been a little bit broader and covered terms and specifications, i.e. the memory technique/tutorial.

Undoubtedly David and cyberglitch have a hot article up their green and black sleeves but if you want to know everything about overclocking, you've ultimately just got to keep cruising through the multitudes of forums out there.

Worthwhile overclocking forums that can take you from a novice through to being one of the elite are the following:

Atomic (obviously)
i4memory
OCAU
Xtreme Systems

There's hundreds more but for any Aussie, they're the main four from a local Australian based level through to an international level.

Welcome to the fray ^__^

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.:Cyb3rGlitch:. 
1/7/08 3:46:50 PM
Titan

Yep, it's a very broad topic. I haven't mingled with the extreme stuff yet, but I'm aiming to get a vapour phase change unit by the end of the year. It's all part of the learning process. :)

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Cyb3rGlitch Tutorials: http://www.cyb3rglitch.com/
Tutorials for the aspiring beginner.

reb_dark 
1/7/08 4:15:12 PM
Disciple

yes, valid point. Thanks for the links too, i'll start checking them out when i get home from work. I wouldn't be surprised if the issue sells well with a feature like that, most people i know hear the word "overclock" and think of molten lumps of plastic and a crap feeling in the pit of their stomach, knowing that they just wasted $200+ of their hard earned dosh. The article wouldnt need to be in-depth, just a simple starting block to get someone on their way, though i appreciate the complexities involved :)
Having someone spell out the basics for you and getting you past the "hell no, i ain't risking my money for a bit of extra performance" phase and into a whole 'nother world of computing would be great. That was my motivation for the suggestion anyway. Great to see it was happening anyway though :)

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moloko 
1/7/08 6:41:58 PM
Serf

Quote by reb_dark
...getting you past the "hell no, i ain't risking my money for a bit of extra performance" phase...



Geez, and I spent all these years wondering what I missed out on in life! I guess I didn't miss much after all, huh =P

Seriously though, it's more of an ancient hysteria than anything else these days. The hardware is engineered and constructed in such ways that there are safety mechanisms in place to avoid any damage to parts (e.g. temp based auto shutdown), even when we're overvolting, overclocking and generally torturing the chips.

A pretty solid example to back this is that I've run upwards of 1.65v into a 45nm chip on air (do NOT do this) and 1.75v in a 65nm part (also, do NOT do this), both times wondering whether it was enough to kill it and it wasn't. When sub-zero, along with some of the other Team.AU boys, we've run 1.9+v into 45nm chips and 2.1v into 65nm chips; again none died... at least in the sessions I was at =P

What I'm getting at is that if you have precautions (sufficient cooling) and a general sense of good logic, it's actually hard to screw up today's tech.

The only times I've seen any of the latest chips die from overclocking was a CPU vcore mod that spiked and sent way too many volts to the chip and another which was (an amusing) user error that resulted in a QX9650 going from 1.9v and 5.7GHz @ -120'C to 1.9v and dead @ -30'C

Also worth doing is checking out if there's anyone in your local area that is keen for some overclocking sessions. While this may be as easy as talking to peeps at your local net cafe or perhaps a bit more work like a shout out on the forums, it can ultimately be very rewarding.

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Team.AU drunk bencher @ -100'C and below, yo!

smadge1 
1/7/08 7:33:28 PM
Immortal

I've never overclocked since I had a celeron 466 and simply fiddled with the FSB through the BIOS.

I don't see the point.

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at first i was like:
{:|
but then:
}:D
I lol'd

[ .. The WHS Guy .. ]

http://geocline.net/
17938

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